Two Years Ago — DNC & Podesta Emails Were Leaked by US ‘Insiders’, as well as Hacked by Russia

“Neither of the leaks (from the Democratic National Committee or Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta) came from the Russians. The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

Former UK Ambassador Craig Murray

“I know ambassador Murray. He is a very honest person. He would not say these things unless he knew that. Not only do we know it is a leak, NOT a hack, but we also know who did it.”

Former CIA Analyst Ray McGovern


Former UK Ambassador Craig Murray

December 16 2016 — The New York Times and other big news outlets are reporting as flat fact that Russia hacked the Democratic email accounts and gave the information to WikiLeaks.  Not everyone agrees. Follow us on Twitter: @INTEL_TODAY

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UPDATE (December 16 2018) — Last year, William Binney — a former NSA Technical Director for World Geopolitical & Military Analysis — claimed the U.S. intelligence community’s assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election was false, and that the DNC e-mails were not hacked but leaked by an insider instead.

On October 24 2017,  Binney met with CIA Director Mike Pompeo for a one hour-long meeting.

As the news of that meeting broke, the US media began to call Binney a conspiracy theorist.

At the time, I immediately pointed out that, although entirely predictable, the smear campaign against William Binney was utterly disgusting.

In an email sent to INTEL TODAY on November 19 2018, ‘Adam Carter’ explained with great details what actually happened.

Obviously, this investigation is not going anywhere fast. And he does not help that Robert Mueller is in charge, considering that he botched all majors investigations he was directly responsible for.

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In a recent interview, Noam Chomsky gave some insight on claims of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election, US-Russian relations, the prospect of a new Cold War, the Democratic Party, campaign finance, and NATO’s eastward expansion.


First, the FBI and the ODNI seem unwilling to confirm the CIA’s findings. Next former US Intelligence Officers made it clear that the allegation is nonsensical. Now, a former UK Ambassador says it is simply not true. What is going on?

Former CIA Ray McGovern posted the following analysis on his website:

We have gone through the various claims about hacking. For us, it is child’s play to dismiss them. The email disclosures in question are the result of a leak, not a hack.

Here’s the difference between leaking and hacking.

Leak: When someone physically takes data out of an organization and gives it to some other person or organization, as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning did.

Hack: When someone in a remote location electronically penetrates operating systems, firewalls or any other cyber-protection system and then extracts data.

All signs point to leaking, not hacking. If hacking were involved, the National Security Agency would know it – and know both sender and recipient.

Robert Parry — a man who knows a few things about ‘October surprizes’ — just published a very interesting piece and here is what he wrote about Murray:

Former British Ambassador Craig Murray, a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, told the London Daily Mail that he personally received the email data from a “disgusted” Democrat.

Murray said he flew from London to Washington for a clandestine handoff from one of the email sources in September, receiving the package in a wooded area near American University.

What does Craig Murray actually claim?

I just listened to a 27′ podcast interview of Murray and here is what he is actually saying. You may also want to read a piece Murray wrote on Dec 11 in this post: The CIA’s Absence of Conviction.

Murray explains that he knows Assange (who has always claimed that the docs do not come from Russia) but he also says that Assange is not the source of his knowledge.

Murray claims that he KNOWS the source (well, at least one of them..) and that he had a direct contact with  someone who worked with this source.

Murray says that he met this person in Washington DC in September of 2016.

Fact checking — In this piece, Former CIA Ray McGovern confirmed that Craig Murray attended the  15th Sam Adams Award for Integrity ceremony which was held on September 25th 2016 at America University, in Washington D.C.

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Next, Murray emphasizes that the DNC and the Podesta docs are two separate stories. But, he claims that both sets of documents were leaked not hacked.

Murray states that he did not deliver the Podesta documents to the WikiLeaks people who had them before September 25 2016. He admits having ‘played a small role’ but he would not say more.

Reading between the statements — it seems that Murray believes/knows that he DNC and the Podesta leaks have two different sources. But in both cases, Murray claims that the leaks come from US insiders.

The DNC documents would have been leaked by a political insider (pro-Bernie disgusted Democrat) while the Podesta emails may have been leaked by an Intelligence Officer  because of the link between Podesta and Saudi Arabia for instance.

Will Truth Trump Clever?

Up to now, mainstream media have only reported stories along the line of the CIA’s report. Namely, both sets of documents (DNC & Podesta) were hacked by Russia and leaked to Wikileaks to help Trump win the election. [‘Everybody knows’ that Vlad has a grudge on HR Clinton and a bromance with Donald…]

So far, we do not know what the CIA “evidence” is but — considering the attitude of the FBI — we know it is circumstantial. I suspect that there is some ‘evidence’ that groups, believed to work for Russia, have hacked the DNC and Podesta emails.

I suspect that there is NO evidence that Russia leaked that information to Wikileaks. (By the way, the story of the TYPO — legitimate instead of illegitimate — is nonsense.)

Finally, I suspect that the DNC and the Podesta documents were indeed leaked by two different sources (Both US insiders who had legal access to the material) and for two different reasons.

The first leak was quite possibly politically motivated while the second one may have been ‘Intelligence’ minded.

“Russian Hacking” Revisited

Ray McGovern and Mike Papantonio discuss CIA claims about Russian hacking. Ray McGovern has this to say:

“I know ambassador Murray. He is a very honest person. He would not say these things unless he knew that. Not only do we know it is a leak, NOT a hack, but we also know who did it.”


William Binney, a former Technical Director of the National Security Agency, explains in technical but understandable English why he thinks it is a leak.



Making Russia ‘The Enemy’ — ConsortiumNews

Podesta Emails — Wikipedia

US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims

DNC, Podesta emails leaked by Americans, not hacked by Russia


DNC & Podesta Emails Were Leaked by US ‘Insiders’, as well as Hacked by Russia!

Two Years Ago — DNC & Podesta Emails Were Leaked by US ‘Insiders’, as well as Hacked by Russia

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